Difference between revisions of "Talk:Fallout 4: Shaun"

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Shaun and American Academy of Pediatrics Safety Standards[edit]

The article says:

"Shaun can be seen swaddled and lying on his back in the Crib at the beginning of the game. This is in accordance with American Academy of Pediatrics safety standards."

Does anyone have a citation for that?

Carnivore (talk) 18:10, 10 July 2015 (EDT)

I'm a new father. We were indeed told that babies should sleep on their back. Not sure whether the swaddling thing is a standard but the sleeping on the back is definitely is. It prevents SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) Rescuer (talk) 01:26, 13 July 2015 (EDT)

How old is Shaun?[edit]

Do we know exactly how old Shaun is? Kozzi (talk) 18:15, 10 July 2015 (EDT)

Between 0 and 1 Tetean (talk) 18:16, 14 July 2015 (EDT)

yeah haha you don't say, obviously he is more than 0 (since he was born) and less than 1 (since he is tiny and swaddled in a crib and drinking for a bottle). I was looking for a more specific age such as 2 weeks? 1 month? 2 month? 4 months? any clues in the gameplay so far as to when he was born? Kozzi (talk) 03:41, 16 July 2015 (EDT)

I would guess 3 months or so Darzak (talk) 14:59, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Shaun's Food?[edit]

I am a new proud father, and in addition to the "laying on the back" sleep position as mentioned above, we were also told that breastfeeding is recommended over formula (also by the American Academy of Pediatrics). Has there been any evidence as to what Shaun eats? Just trying to figure out if there is some sort of "pattern" here and perhaps this game has some hidden educational value.

Rescuer (talk) 01:24, 13 July 2015 (EDT)

Here is a screenshot showing Shaun's Bottles behind Codsworth on the kitchen counter in the Protagonist's House

Not sure what type of food they contain, though. Tetean (talk) 18:22, 14 July 2015 (EDT)

Could be Milk because that's whats seen in the Fridge. 98.210.173.230 14:52, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Babies can't drink milk until they are 1 year of age. So it has to be breast milk or formula. And I didn't see any formula so perhaps the baby is breast fed. Darzak (talk) 14:58, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Spelling of baby's Name[edit]

Can anyone confirm the spelling of the baby's name? When I heard it in the E3 video it sounded like "Sean". How do you know it's spelled "Shaun" and not "Sean"?

Tobis (talk) 01:30, 13 July 2015 (EDT)

Here is a screenshot showing that it's correctly spelled "Shaun" Tetean (talk) 18:16, 14 July 2015 (EDT)

Playing with Crib Mobile advances to post-war era?[edit]

I noticed in the E3 gameplay that after Nora tells Howard to entertain Shaun by spinning the Crib Mobile, When Howard does that, at that moment Codsworth calls the family to come see the TV broadcast that's talking about the nuclear attack. So I wander if spinning the Crib Mobile is the "point of no return" which triggers the cutscene and advances the game from pre-war to post-war. Like for example instead of spinning the Crib Mobile, can you go explore Sanctuary Hills all you want during pre-war and when you are ready to go to the next stage of the game, then go back to your House and spin the Crib Mobile?

Nuko (talk) 03:21, 16 July 2015 (EDT)

Do we know at all that we can leave the House and explore? GamerM (talk) 02:03, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

You can definetly open the front door when the Vault-Tec Rep comes and it looks like you are in freeform mode before you press the button to talk to him... so perhaps you can just leave the house and go explore the neighborhood during that time. Fellow (talk) 16:50, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Nora carries Shaun?[edit]

In the E3 gameplay, when the family runs to the shelter, Nora takes Shaun and runs out with him. Seemed weird to me? Wouldn't the husband, a war veteran, and probably stronger and can carry more weight? Why is he letting the wife carry Shaun rather than carrying Shaun himself? They even have to run up the hill and such...

Terrorman (talk) 03:55, 16 July 2015 (EDT)

Maybe Howard is carrying more heavy supplies which they need GamerM (talk) 02:03, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Could be, but the baby's safety should be first priority to the family. Plus what kind of "supplies" would be so important that he can't hold the baby because of them? His collection of video games? Terrorman (talk) 14:40, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Agreed, it's not like they had time to pack a suitcase once the sirens sounded. And from the dialog, all this caught them by complete surprise so I don't think they had a suitcase packed, they just needed to run to the shelter. Also, the vault should already be equipped with all the supplies they need. Therefore Howard should be the one to take the baby, not Nora. Fellow (talk) 15:03, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Maybe if you choose a female protagonist it is Howard who carries the baby - basically whoever you choose to play as, the other character carries the baby Brontosaurus (talk) 14:38, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Shaun's crying[edit]

If I had to guess why Shaun was crying, it's probably because Codsworth scares him. From the dialog it is clear that the robot changes the kid's diapers. I can understand why that robot could look very scary to a baby. Perhaps the mother or father should do the diaper changes and other personal interactions with the baby rather than having the robot handle it.

Dor (talk) 14:55, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Or maybe the baby is crying because it's hungry. Not once have I seen anyone feed the baby during the gameplay video. They just tickle him and play with the Crib Mobile Darzak (talk) 14:58, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

Additionally, children learn fear responses from experience, instinct, pheromones, certain types of noises, and from parents. If the parents freaked out the baby would learn to, but theoretically we could raise a child conditioned to actually view things like Codsworth not only as real people (and humans be the scary ones) but also view them in a romantic light despite all of the obvious issues with that. The human psyche is incredible, and I don't think having a robot change Shaun's diapers (unless the robot actually does it in a scary manner ie flinging Shaun around or is uncomfortable to the touch) would be enough to incite crying. - Aze